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		<title>Comment on Automatic Wudu Washer by Fawzy Manaa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fawzy Manaa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 06:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talha, but then again, I think a modification in the design can be achieved to disclude some of the less needed features such as the one you mentioned (although I know we&#039;re talking about a product that already integrates the feature into it)... The main idea is the conservation of water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talha, but then again, I think a modification in the design can be achieved to disclude some of the less needed features such as the one you mentioned (although I know we&#8217;re talking about a product that already integrates the feature into it)&#8230; The main idea is the conservation of water.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Concept: Random Number Generator (RNG) by Majid Mirza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Majid Mirza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 23:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay so I will cut the suspense and share with you an idea a Sister had. I wanted her to comment here herself, but she is busy these days so she asked me to go ahead and share it. 

If in fact, this hadith refers to the &quot;randomness&quot; of the object as opposed to the game being played or gambling aspect, the way randomness can be removed is by bringing a Start-Stop function into the device. This is equivalent to a silly game played by people where you try to Start and Stop a stopwatch closes to zero. The reason this can work is because there is actual skill involved. So for example, suppose you are playing Monopoly and you badly need a 4 to land on a particular property, your skill with being able to stop the Random Number Generator as it zooms through the number 4 will play a huge part in your outcome. Of course it wouldn&#039;t be called a Random Number Generator then. 

Is it just me or does that sound like an awesome and innovative solution? Also we need new name suggestions for the device!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay so I will cut the suspense and share with you an idea a Sister had. I wanted her to comment here herself, but she is busy these days so she asked me to go ahead and share it. </p>
<p>If in fact, this hadith refers to the &#8220;randomness&#8221; of the object as opposed to the game being played or gambling aspect, the way randomness can be removed is by bringing a Start-Stop function into the device. This is equivalent to a silly game played by people where you try to Start and Stop a stopwatch closes to zero. The reason this can work is because there is actual skill involved. So for example, suppose you are playing Monopoly and you badly need a 4 to land on a particular property, your skill with being able to stop the Random Number Generator as it zooms through the number 4 will play a huge part in your outcome. Of course it wouldn&#8217;t be called a Random Number Generator then. </p>
<p>Is it just me or does that sound like an awesome and innovative solution? Also we need new name suggestions for the device!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Concept: Random Number Generator (RNG) by Muhammad Abduhu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muhammad Abduhu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 21:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is this idea that you&#039;re talking about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is this idea that you&#8217;re talking about?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Concept: Random Number Generator (RNG) by Kashif Umer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kashif Umer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After I looked at this post again, I realized that maybe I&#039;m thinking too literally (maybe we all are). So, I decided to ask the Imam of Waterloo Masjid about the ahahdith.

He told me not to focus on the elements of the game, but rather the games themselves. There is ample evidence that randomness is not haram, so how can it be the die in and of itself? He explained that the problem stems from what Abdelrahman mentioned below, wasting time. In this case the dice are used in a game that wastes time and so we should not &#039;play&#039; with them. He interprets this as avoiding the games themselves. If you were to use a die to determine the battering order of a 6 person team, he said this would be acceptable.

This is just one opinion on the matter and Allah (swt) knows best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After I looked at this post again, I realized that maybe I&#8217;m thinking too literally (maybe we all are). So, I decided to ask the Imam of Waterloo Masjid about the ahahdith.</p>
<p>He told me not to focus on the elements of the game, but rather the games themselves. There is ample evidence that randomness is not haram, so how can it be the die in and of itself? He explained that the problem stems from what Abdelrahman mentioned below, wasting time. In this case the dice are used in a game that wastes time and so we should not &#8216;play&#8217; with them. He interprets this as avoiding the games themselves. If you were to use a die to determine the battering order of a 6 person team, he said this would be acceptable.</p>
<p>This is just one opinion on the matter and Allah (swt) knows best.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Automatic Wudu Washer by fezzik</title>
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		<dc:creator>fezzik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 05:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we have a tendency to romanticize the past. I&#039;m not sure why but we associate doing things the way they were done in the past as more authentic or genuine (I know you&#039;re not suggesting that..you&#039;re suggesting the direct accountability piece makes it more genuine), but just as a general observation something I sometimes think about is why we think reverting back to our roots is more genuine than using current methods to reach the same end.

Hey, it&#039;d be pretty cool if each time we made wudu, there would be a meter with an LED display that would show how much water we&#039;ve used. Would probably be much cheaper than this $4,000/piece machine :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we have a tendency to romanticize the past. I&#8217;m not sure why but we associate doing things the way they were done in the past as more authentic or genuine (I know you&#8217;re not suggesting that..you&#8217;re suggesting the direct accountability piece makes it more genuine), but just as a general observation something I sometimes think about is why we think reverting back to our roots is more genuine than using current methods to reach the same end.</p>
<p>Hey, it&#8217;d be pretty cool if each time we made wudu, there would be a meter with an LED display that would show how much water we&#8217;ve used. Would probably be much cheaper than this $4,000/piece machine <img src='http://www.productmuslim.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Concept: Random Number Generator (RNG) by fezzik</title>
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		<dc:creator>fezzik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 05:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm that&#039;s an interesting point but I can&#039;t come to terms with the fact that something that is &quot;close to being random&quot;, i.e. an RNG determined by an algorithm would be permissible but another that has its randomness based on natural phenomenon would be impermissible. You could argue that natural phenomenon too follow an algorithm (laws of physics), even though we may not have been able to convert it into code. The former just seems like avoiding the same result by finding a loophole. Allah knows best.

Some thing that I found useful: http://www.islam4all.com/chap-10i.htm#c7

--&gt; shows the distinction between gambling and drawing lots. Gambling is impermissible, drawing lots is, even though both have the random element in it. I think we need to put more thought into what is being prohibited when &quot;games of chance&quot; are being prohibited. 

$0.02...Allah knows best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm that&#8217;s an interesting point but I can&#8217;t come to terms with the fact that something that is &#8220;close to being random&#8221;, i.e. an RNG determined by an algorithm would be permissible but another that has its randomness based on natural phenomenon would be impermissible. You could argue that natural phenomenon too follow an algorithm (laws of physics), even though we may not have been able to convert it into code. The former just seems like avoiding the same result by finding a loophole. Allah knows best.</p>
<p>Some thing that I found useful: <a href="http://www.islam4all.com/chap-10i.htm#c7" rel="nofollow">http://www.islam4all.com/chap-10i.htm#c7</a></p>
<p>&#8211;&gt; shows the distinction between gambling and drawing lots. Gambling is impermissible, drawing lots is, even though both have the random element in it. I think we need to put more thought into what is being prohibited when &#8220;games of chance&#8221; are being prohibited. </p>
<p>$0.02&#8230;Allah knows best.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Automatic Wudu Washer by Talha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Talha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 03:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Insightful blog post - although I think it&#039;s a bit overkill in some aspects, especially with the indicators that tell you which body parts to wash next.

I think people would know which wudhu step is coming next...unless they&#039;re half asleep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Insightful blog post &#8211; although I think it&#8217;s a bit overkill in some aspects, especially with the indicators that tell you which body parts to wash next.</p>
<p>I think people would know which wudhu step is coming next&#8230;unless they&#8217;re half asleep.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Automatic Wudu Washer by Tank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting gadget.. haha.  It could actually be very useful, but I&#039;d imagine there&#039;s a big price tag as well that wouldn&#039;t offset the cost of overusing the water.  Environmentally it might have more merit.  I think it might be better suited to just make people conscious of their wudu behaviour with simple signs on the wall.  Just having print outs reminding everyone not to turn the washroom into a fish tank for the good of the environment, the building, and fellow Muslims :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting gadget.. haha.  It could actually be very useful, but I&#8217;d imagine there&#8217;s a big price tag as well that wouldn&#8217;t offset the cost of overusing the water.  Environmentally it might have more merit.  I think it might be better suited to just make people conscious of their wudu behaviour with simple signs on the wall.  Just having print outs reminding everyone not to turn the washroom into a fish tank for the good of the environment, the building, and fellow Muslims <img src='http://www.productmuslim.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Automatic Wudu Washer by Musa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Musa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out the press release on this product:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N_V85eZv-g&amp;feature=related

- unrealistic price point in my opinion

Better Alternative: Just put sensors on all taps.
                                 - Cheaper
                                 - Would reach out to more people
                                 - Practical</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out the press release on this product:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N_V85eZv-g&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N_V85eZv-g&#038;feature=related</a></p>
<p>- unrealistic price point in my opinion</p>
<p>Better Alternative: Just put sensors on all taps.<br />
                                 &#8211; Cheaper<br />
                                 &#8211; Would reach out to more people<br />
                                 &#8211; Practical</p>
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		<title>Comment on Review: Hijabman by AbdelRahman Elsayed Morsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>AbdelRahman Elsayed Morsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I realized that the P90X video series I borrowed from that guy were actually downloaded from the Internet, not bought, so I am deleting it. I just wanted to mention this to bring to people&#039;s attention that using pirated software or illegally downloaded content is at the very least mashbooh, and remind them how very, very careful our pious predecessors were in avoiding the haram. 


About awesome Tshirts, it would be a good idea to have like a collection of all Islamically awesome Tshirts.

There are a few funny designs here: http://www.phatwafactory.com/index.php?osCsid=d96383baf1da625b412644c8f71c7f46</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I realized that the P90X video series I borrowed from that guy were actually downloaded from the Internet, not bought, so I am deleting it. I just wanted to mention this to bring to people&#8217;s attention that using pirated software or illegally downloaded content is at the very least mashbooh, and remind them how very, very careful our pious predecessors were in avoiding the haram. </p>
<p>About awesome Tshirts, it would be a good idea to have like a collection of all Islamically awesome Tshirts.</p>
<p>There are a few funny designs here: <a href="http://www.phatwafactory.com/index.php?osCsid=d96383baf1da625b412644c8f71c7f46" rel="nofollow">http://www.phatwafactory.com/index.php?osCsid=d96383baf1da625b412644c8f71c7f46</a></p>
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